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I figured bumping this thread is a better option than spamming the I am thread

I figured I'd share my findings with everyone...

The rings I bought were the Absolute Circus ones from Beard :

http://www.beardjuggling.co.uk/product/ ... -rings-5mm

I sanded them down a little bit where they would overlap so that the glue would stick, and then superglued them together. I then put some 'hard as nails' around the tiny gap between the rings where they overlap, more as an aesthetic filler, but also for strength. Then I sanded down the double edges in the middle where my fingers hold them when spinning them so my fingers have a flat surface to hold.

I finished making them yesterday and have been playing very intermittently with them since then, and even just since posting in the I am thread I've made good progress. I like the size of the rings and am getting used to the weight!

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Hm, I'm not sure of the thickness of the rings I used (Dube Airflite: http://www.dube.com/ring/airflite-juggling-rings.php) but I'm still finding them rather light. Mine are simply taped together with clear tape (for now).

Does anyone else find their eightrings difficult to keep in plane while spinning? Mine tend to wobble a bit (could be an issue of practice, though I feel modifying them slightly may help; any suggestions?)

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Yeah, definitelty eca! There is a point where you pretty much need to balance them during the finger switch. Mine were wobbling all over the place at first. Now my fingers are a tiny bit better at keeping the rings at an even, constant spin I find they are staying more stable.

I'm not really trying any tricks yet, I'm concentrating on just getting a good constant spin in both directions with both hands. I find doing left hand anticlock and right hand clock (as I am looking at the rings from my perspective) the hardest direction.

Actually, when I say I'm not trying tricks, I'm always isolating one of the rings as I'm spinning them. I find it seems to help keep the spin more stable and gives me a feel for using the momentum they gain.

Now I really must get on with my taxes

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Just to update my previous post, the rings I made both broke apart quite quickly when used over a hard floor. I then tried "extra strong" contact adhesive which pretty much broke straight away.

I'm gonna try silicone sealant next...

On the plus side, once one of the eightrings had broken I continued to play with the other one, and discovered it was almost more fun than using two!

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Quite honestly, I'd recommend skipping the silicone and going straight for the bondo, or any other kind of epoxy. You'll have a much sturdier hold that way. Just make sure to measure bunches of times before finally gluing, 'cuz those aren't coming apart afterwards.

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I was primarily thinking of silicone because it has some flex to absorb any impacts on hard floors. Is epoxy not too brittle?

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? it is really so complex? I use a single piece of tape, doesn't really seem to matter what kind. I'm constantly tearing them apart and remaking them, only takes a sec.

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Different sort of eight rings, but I love this video:

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I started learning 8ring as my first finger-spinny iso technique prop, and it was all new to me. When I started baton and pichbuugeng, pich gave me a lot of advice which really changed the technique of my finger positioning with 8ring and opened up my ability to deal with 4x8ring stuff that tessy and Ouka do. Basically, pich explained with baton that the thumb is ALWAYS on the bottom. So holding a baton horizontal to the floor was a natural position, because the thumb is ready on the bottom to support the rotation in either direction.

When I started 8ring, when I held my 8ring horizontal (2 circles side by side, not up and down) my thumb was helping with the grip on the side. This felt the most comfortable, but I always had 'bumps' as i rotated the 8ring because my thumb had to jump around a lot to switch positions, and when the 8ring was in the up&down position I would often lose control.

Using pich's advice, holding the 8ring in up&down is more comfortable because the thumb is clearly on the bottom, but the horizontal position is much more uncomfortable because you are not using your thumb anymore for support. It is waiting to catch the bottomside of the ring as it returns to the default/comfortable up&down position. It changed the fingerwork for the rotation tremendously, but now i feel like I have more control using the pich technique, plus it means that all my 8ring/isoBaton/Buugeng fingerwork is standardized. With the right dimension of prop, the patterns I create with my arms and fingers are exactly the same with each different object (baton,buugeng,8ring) I am working with.

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IMark, thank you for showing that video... now I want new props...

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Eh heh hehe, you're so right, cheers man

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4UrlG4GALo

I got some of these from Renegade Design Lab recently, there's a hole in the middle of the rings for your finger to go through (you need to ask to have the holes put in). It might be considered cheating to some people though

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i made some with my prototype play saturn rings.. their big ones, but before they switched to the translucent plastic. They be a bit floppy and wide. I am finding it kinda hard as it happens. left hand outer spin is wonky :/

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Started out with this a couple of days ago. I just put some Blu tac between two Mr Babache rings and then used clear tape on top, they wobble a bit, and drift off their planes a bit, but this is just a practise issue. They have a nice weight and the rings aren't too big in diameter. They have taken a good number of ard hits on the ground and show no signs of breaking apart.
I feel like my experience with poi, and palm spinning has had the greatest effect on my ability to do this, the theory of poi and eightring manipulation is very similar, with the modes and planes and all that.

How active is the lab? Would they still accept research applicants for a couple of their prototypes do think? Particularly the eigthrings