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Hey all like the title says, I really need help with my outside elbow stall. I can put the ball there and make it stall pretty good but I can't roll it there and make it stay.

I would really appreciate your tips.

Thanks

I second the request.

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"Balance is constant motion in an effort to achieve stillness." - Michael Moschen

Don't even worry about the roll until you can really frolick around with the ball on your elbow. Once you can pop the ball up from the elbow stall and catch it again, you're right ready for the roll.

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there is also a detailed discription on both elbow stalls/rolls somewhere. use the search function

Personally, this is my favorite way to learn those.
http://www.contactjuggling.org/wiki/ind ... ckArm_Roll

once you can roll off your elbow and into a cradle with the other hand, you'll be able to learn stalls much easier. Just try roll as slow and controlled as you can. Stalls areant really stalls btw, their balances more than anything. Practice Balancing on your elbow, think about balancing on your elbow... its easy to get it solid after a little while.

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also, let your wrist go limp as the ball approaches the elbow - it relaxes your arm muscles and gives you a flatter, larger area to stall.

This is doable, but I feel like it gives that roll a slightly silly look (limp-wristed, dare I say?) and makes 2B contact very awkward when you can't hold a cradle and an elbow stall at the same time.

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I like to rotate my hand inward and it produces a nice stall point and looks better.

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You control the inertia, it doesn't control you.

true(ish), but we're talking about someone unable to hit it at all atm... sure for 2b you need to be able to hold it non limp wrsted too, but for getting used to having a ball stop at that point and finding its balance i found it an invaluble tip. small steps, then you find when your more confident with that balance the limpness is needed less and less.

Oh, also flicking up from your foot to catching on the elbow is mega useful too.

I usually go with the standard learning routine (hold the stall --> throw to stall --> roll to stall) like Richard suggests, but Dark5tar also gave me an alternate outside elbow stall learning scheme that made a lot of sense. The idea is to do progressively longer arm rolls with reversals in the middle...

I.e.:
1) roll from cradle to back of hand and back to cradle
2) cradle -> wrist -> cradle
3) cradle -> lower forearm -> cradle
4) cradle -> mid forearm -> cradle
5) cradle -> upper forearm -> cradle
6) cradle -> outer elbow -> cradle
7) cradle -> outer elbow stall

The reversals teach you when to "put the brakes on" as it were. Because even if your stall point is rock solid, controlling the momentum of the roll is what this move is really all about.

^^ I like this.

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You know, I like the fact I don't have to ask questions because they are all already asked. brb gotta practice

I agree with Richard on this point, it looks silly. However, I think that both means should be explored, you never know what's going to inspire something new.