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paradox
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: new iso tip (for practicing)

practice in the dark. like in your room at night. make sure you can see your acrylic (or other ball), but not your hand. iso away. if it's iso'ed, you won't see it move.

btw, no, i can't iso
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject:

Sounds like a good practice technique - imma try this tonight
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Look!_This_Chånges!
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject:

Surely if you can't see properly, you can't see where you're going wrong? and the isolation will go wrong, but you will be unable to tell for certain, and will teach yourself bad habits.

The chorus of a song springs to mind: 'Just because it feels good, doesn't make it right...' hmmm... interesting words...

Paradox said: btw, no, i can't iso - Need I say more?
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject:

here's an idea which may work, haven't tried it yet because i don't have the equipment. i was thinking about whether I was isolating the top ball of a four stack while walking round it in a circle. There's nothing to base the isolation on like I would standing in one place.

So my idea: a laser pointer on the ceiling pointing directly down, keep the dot in the centre of the ball being isolated.

Would that work?
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject:

Interesting...I don't know, but I sure would like to see a vid of that.
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject:

Thom: Yes. It would. but you would have to think about the vertical isolation all by yourself.
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject:

[quote="Look!_This_Chånges!"]Surely if you can't see properly, you can't see where you're going wrong? and the isolation will go wrong, but you will be unable to tell for certain, and will teach yourself bad habits.

The chorus of a song springs to mind: 'Just because it feels good, doesn't make it right...' hmmm... interesting words...

Paradox said: btw, no, i can't iso - Need I say more?[/quote]

I had just read the first post and was thinking : but that's clearly a brilliant idea : so simple and easy to try out !!!
and then you make me realize this wouldn't be a good idea my day will be sad...
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject:

I like the idea. So long as you can still see a small trace of light on the ball, i think this could help. It is much easier to notice if a single point of light is moving than trying to think about an entire ball. Plus, dim-light isolations ''look'' better; there is less visual information to tell if the ball is moving.
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject:

I approve that. Acrylics are beautiful with only a little glimpse of light....

...hooooo..... shiny... ^.^
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject:

Ok overnight ive just solved all my isolation woes! I sat in front of my large mirror comfortably and made a tiny square of mirror using 4 sheets of white A4 paper the exact size and placement of my ball in whatever move im practicing. I then sit and play! I started by drawing a square with my eyeliner but the rest of the mirror was putting me off - the white paper makes a large enough frame to take away any distractions. Plus a bit of sticky tape in each corner of each piece makes rearranging easy to get the square exactly on my ball however and wherever im sitting/standing. Not only is it really surprising just how much the ball wobbles and shakes but u can tell EXACTLY which direction the ball is bobbing and where the isolation is going wrong! Im lovin it - it works for me!

Edit - also works great if u make a long skinny rectangle for getting your lines bang on
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject:

laser from the ceiling, pah!

whats wrong with dangling a bit of string and the pretty bead of your choice? and a little cleverness with knots can give you a sliding adjustment for height.

gives you a reference point for all dimensions, hardly gets in the way and doesn't eat batteries.

like the masked mirror idea. especially for the lines

then again, setting up a matrix of lasers to give you a set of absolute fixed points and lines would be a reaaaaaaalllly cool learning tool (might make for an awesome show, too. acrylics travelling on ever changing beams of coloured light.....hmmm.)
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject:

or you can do it in complete darkness and pretend your isolating the ball, you would never need to learn an actual isolation ever again, lol
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject:

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