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PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 15:29 
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Ill film mine when I get home in an hour. I planned it out already. Thanks for waiting! Anyone else?

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ok ok, finally, I did a motion... very classical.
be careful, the most difficult motion in this proposition is the double horizontal translation.


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PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 18:20 
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Thanks for waiting! here is mine....



There seems to be a bit of an issue embedding this....hmmmm

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I'm sooo sorry! I can't get in a submission this week! I definitely will next week. I got a chance to get in some extra hours at regular work and I badly need the money. After a 15 hour work day today, I just simply don't have it in me for this week. Will be back next week! Sorry, again!

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oks, after giving it a bit of a thought i decided to go for Pich's "very classical" move. The reasons i choose this one are:

1. Pich's move is simple yet very useful to learn keeping one straight line with both batons, as well as the simple horizontal line transfer :)
2. This move changes very nicely from anti-parallel (like mirror) to parallel, and i really like going that way again. I find anti-parallel moves more interesting, more visual and easier to do (Elsie and I kept going anti-parallel - sweet move Elsie and very hard! Before you posted your submission i was thinking about this move... also a good move to practice in general i think ^^)
3. Cory's move is one i really like, but i feel like not mixing the crosses yet into this FTL, and keep simple symmetry for a few more moves.

So, Pich's classical move it is :D

@ Elsie: Will you make the revision of the moves or should i do it?

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PostPosted: 26 May 2012, 04:56 
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Yay, congratulations Pich! Really clean aswell, good sharp angles.

So here it is, the video to follow this week :



Notes (from the performer's perspective, not the viewer's)

Move 1 - Elsie's move - Both batons clockwise - Smooth movement, well isolated balls, both hands making perfect circles right next to each other.

Move 2 - Grateful's move - Use the horizontal line that the batons create at the end of move 1 as a base line, and do not let any part of the baton go below it.
Bring batons up to meet each other in the middle, then back down to base line again. Your hands draw a quarter circle each, making a semi circle.
If you are doing this correctly, on the move up to the middle you should find a ball naturally isolates itself on the left hand baton, then on the way down it will be on the right hand baton. At the same time, on the way up to the middle, on the right hand baton a ball will travel in a straight line upwards above to iso'd ball, and likewise on the way down, a ball will travel straight downwards on the left hand baton.

Move 3 - Pilolip's move - When I first saw this, after I'd stopped salivating I tried to analyse what was happening. I got all muddled when I was watching the balls, so I watched Pilolip's hands instead, and there was my answer - it was the same move as Grateful's except with the bottom part of the pattern added. If you watch his hands you'll see that they are both doing a semi-circle each, thus making a full circle.
Do the same thing making the 'base line' horizontally, and when you do the top part, don't go below it, and when you do the bottom part, don't go above it.

Move 4 - Ryan's Clocks - The easiest way I found to remeber what was going on is all in the name. The right baton goes from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, just as a real clock hand would. Then the left baton goes from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock again. Aim to keep the movement of whichever baton is just travelling the straight line in as straight a line as possible, but I'm sure you knew that already :wink:
Something helpful for this move is to keep both hands totally level (on the horizontal plane) with each other the whole way through, this will help keep the timing right on the baton doing the circles.

Move 5 - Cory's box pattern - With this one you are drawing the shape of two boxes side by side. After the last 'clocks' move, when the batons come to rest in the upright position, they are already making the "inner walls" of the boxes you are about to make. Isolate the upper ball on each baton, and move the batons until they make the "upper walls" of the boxes (i.e. in a straight horizontal line), then isolate the outer balls and move the batons to make the "outer walls" of the boxes. Next, isolate the two lower balls and move the batons to make the "bottom walls", then isolate the two central balls and move the batons back to the first position, the "inner walls". Good hints to make this look clean is to try and define each 90 degree switch by almost jerking the baton at each transition.

Move 6 - Pich's big box - Very similar to the last pattern, but instead of making just two small boxes, you are making two more directly underneath the last ones (or one big box if you like) (or two tall rectangles if you also like). If anyone wants this explaining some more I'll do a slowed down video so you can see it clearly.

Move 7 - Congasious' move - From the bottom section of the big box move, just before both batons would move to the lowest horizontal section of the box, they do a half antispin upwards. The balls at the bottom travel in a straight line upwards, while the balls at the top do a straight line accross the middle where they meet, before they return back to their starting point. Then you isolate those balls and spin the batons through 180 degrees back to the start of the move. "Half antispin, half spinspin". Rinse and repeat!

Move 8 - Pich's move - During the last 'half antispin' of Congasious' move, keep the upper balls travelling in the same direction they were going (towards the center) and when they meet, keep them moving right across each other. The batons go totally horizontal and your right arm wants to be ABOVE your left arm. Keep travelling across until the batons have fully passed each other, making a straight line.
From here, your goal is to keep the batons in this straight line, and make them do a complete clockwise circle, using the point where the two balls are together as the central point of rotation. Your arms will uncross, and then cross again, with your left arm ABOVE your right arm.
As Pich said, the important part of this move is the horizontal lines. Try to make these lines as clean and flat as you can before the spin, during the spin, and then once it has finished. Pich's whole video was done really well, every move was done with as much precision as possible with really well defined angles, good work dude :D

Move 9 - Whatever you want it to be!

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PostPosted: 26 May 2012, 05:00 
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Oh, re the embedding issues, for some reason shortened youtube urls (they usually have youtu.be in them somewhere) don't embed anymore. You either have to go to the page the video is on from your 'video manager' screen in youtube, and use that url, or you can use the 'video' tags instead of the 'youtube' tags, that seems to work just as well.

I've edited Pich and Cory's post so that they show the videos properly.

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PostPosted: 26 May 2012, 08:44 
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I'm on the case with my submission this week, I'm going to be really busy next week and won't get a moment.

This week I have used the same move Congasious suggested for the last round. It's a half antispin and spinspin, where the arms cross over on the spinspin and then uncross with an antispin. The batons should not go below the horizontal line at the end of Pich's move.


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PostPosted: 28 May 2012, 16:42 
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this is my submission:
full anti-spin // full spin-spin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC96DOeU6Qc

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PostPosted: 01 Jun 2012, 14:29 
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So I'm guessing Pich hasn't realised it's his turn to choose the new leader then..?

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Yes, I choose a bit later between the so many submission : Congasious is the new "Last one" (I don't like the word "leader").
He did choose me, so I choose him ! Arff ! no ! Congasious did the most obvious following. I was hesitating to post this "double antispin comeback" before everybody for push people to do something else and add spices but I missed time. :(
So Follow The Last one, follow Congasious !

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So here it is, the video to follow this week :



Notes (from the performer's perspective, not the viewer's)

Move 1 - Elsie's move - Both batons clockwise - Smooth movement, well isolated balls, both hands making perfect circles right next to each other.

Move 2 - Grateful's move - Use the horizontal line that the batons create at the end of move 1 as a base line, and do not let any part of the baton go below it.
Bring batons up to meet each other in the middle, then back down to base line again. Your hands draw a quarter circle each, making a semi circle.
If you are doing this correctly, on the move up to the middle you should find a ball naturally isolates itself on the left hand baton, then on the way down it will be on the right hand baton. At the same time, on the way up to the middle, on the right hand baton a ball will travel in a straight line upwards above to iso'd ball, and likewise on the way down, a ball will travel straight downwards on the left hand baton.

Move 3 - Pilolip's move - When I first saw this, after I'd stopped salivating I tried to analyse what was happening. I got all muddled when I was watching the balls, so I watched Pilolip's hands instead, and there was my answer - it was the same move as Grateful's except with the bottom part of the pattern added. If you watch his hands you'll see that they are both doing a semi-circle each, thus making a full circle.
Do the same thing making the 'base line' horizontally, and when you do the top part, don't go below it, and when you do the bottom part, don't go above it.

Move 4 - Ryan's Clocks - The easiest way I found to remeber what was going on is all in the name. The right baton goes from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, just as a real clock hand would. Then the left baton goes from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock again. Aim to keep the movement of whichever baton is just travelling the straight line in as straight a line as possible, but I'm sure you knew that already :wink:
Something helpful for this move is to keep both hands totally level (on the horizontal plane) with each other the whole way through, this will help keep the timing right on the baton doing the circles.

Move 5 - Cory's box pattern - With this one you are drawing the shape of two boxes side by side. After the last 'clocks' move, when the batons come to rest in the upright position, they are already making the "inner walls" of the boxes you are about to make. Isolate the upper ball on each baton, and move the batons until they make the "upper walls" of the boxes (i.e. in a straight horizontal line), then isolate the outer balls and move the batons to make the "outer walls" of the boxes. Next, isolate the two lower balls and move the batons to make the "bottom walls", then isolate the two central balls and move the batons back to the first position, the "inner walls". Good hints to make this look clean is to try and define each 90 degree switch by almost jerking the baton at each transition.

Move 6 - Pich's big box - Very similar to the last pattern, but instead of making just two small boxes, you are making two more directly underneath the last ones (or one big box if you like) (or two tall rectangles if you also like). If anyone wants this explaining some more I'll do a slowed down video so you can see it clearly.

Move 7 - Congasious' move - From the bottom section of the big box move, just before both batons would move to the lowest horizontal section of the box, they do a half antispin upwards. The balls at the bottom travel in a straight line upwards, while the balls at the top do an horizontal straight line across the middle where they meet, before they return back to their starting point. Then you isolate those balls and spin the batons through 180 degrees back to the start of the move. "Half antispin, half spinspin". Rinse and repeat!

Move 8 - Pich's move - During the last 'half antispin' of Congasious' move, keep the upper balls travelling in the same direction they were going (towards the center) and when they meet, keep them moving right across each other. The batons go totally horizontal and your right arm wants to be ABOVE your left arm. Keep travelling across until the batons have fully passed each other, making a straight line.
From here, your goal is to keep the batons in this straight line, and make them do a complete clockwise circle, using the point where the two balls are together as the central point of rotation. Your arms will uncross, and then cross again, with your left arm ABOVE your right arm.
The important part of this move is the horizontal lines. Try to make these lines as clean and flat as you can before the spin, during the spin, and then once it has finished.

Move 9 - by Congasious - After the full double spin-spin proposed by Pich, your hands go back in the other way : they will made a perfect circle in anticlockwise during the batons are continuing to spin (with the fingers) at the same speed, still in clockwise. So for each baton, there is a double spin in opposite way with 1 small spin during 1 big spin, it's a full antispin 1-1. We can see straight lines when the batons are horizontal and when they are vertical and also, the batons stay all the time parallel. Then we repeat the full double spin-spin 1-1 and then the full double antispin 1-1

who will show the move 10 ?

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2012, 16:27 
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Yep, I'd thought that that would be the most obvious move, that is why I'd chosen something different :D

Cool, I'll get planning on my next move!

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Yeah! My move 10!

I don't know what it's called but it feels very much like when you do the windmill when juggling 3 balls.

There's an element of clocks too.


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You peeps are all very inspiring!

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