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Stick Man



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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: The Matrix

Iím not usually one to put any stock in a moves name. But I just stumbled upon a type of move I havenít seen before in the Sphere Manipulation world, that looks strikingly similar to a type of Contact Staff move Iíve seen. The sphere moves, are basically body rolls, where the ball travels around the body, under your arm or arms. ďA MatrixĒ is the name of the type of Contact Staff that looks so similar. Iíd assume the name is derived from the scene in, ďThe MatrixĒ where Neo is being shot at and needs to dodge all the bullets. Only because that is exactly what you look like when you do this move. But anyways, I only bring it up because it seems like these under arm rolls may hold a lot of possibilities for the future of body roll work. And seeing as we already have classifications like: Arm Rolls, Bridges, Hand Work, Head Rolls, and Enigmas, and Matrixes are already CJ moves, why not add them to SM?

OK! here they are! I'm SO excited, I just had change my pants!
Needs more thought...
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject:

Stickman, I think I must see a Matrix to full understanding...
Is there a place?
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject:

http://mcp.tepookatoys.com/index.php?option=com_content&task;=view&id;=124&Itemid;=26

select matrix
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject:

I need to put LOTS of work into this move. But with the right body movements, I think it can be smoothed out and the idea can be expanded on. I guess another bad explanation would be that it is like an behind the neck roll, only the ball rolls around your side, under the arm, rather than around the neck.

1/2 Matrix BtN Roll

If you start from the end of the video clip, and do a cradle to cradle pass, then repeat the move in the opposite direction, I think it would look amazing.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject:

In one of the Matrix films Neo is fighting all those Agent Smith copies, and is using a staff.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject:

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject:

finishes changing pants....

oh MAN now theres like 10 more moves i CANT do lol
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject:

I do a move I call 'the matrix' but it looks nothing like the one you mean.

All in slow motion, I hold the ball out in front of me, and doing a grip iso I move the ball towards my chest.
As it gets close to my chest I slowly lean backwards as far as I can, tip my head right back and (while still grip isoing) move the ball on a horizontal plane right over my chest and head, so I am in a similar position to Keanu when he is doing the lean back parallel-to-the-floor bit where the camera pans around him (see also 'ping-pong matrix style' video).
From here you can either fall down and hit the floor, or reverse the procedure (preferable).
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject:

[quote="stick man"]OK! here they are! I'm SO excited, I just had change my pants!

ľ Matrix Behind the Neck Roll
1) Start in cradle position of right hand
2) Roll over right shoulder to behind the neck (=1/2 behind the neck roll)
3) Roll under left arm
4) Roll up chest onto left shoulder and along left arm to cradle position of left hand (=1/2 chest roll)

ľ Matrix Chest Roll
1.) Start in cradle position of right hand
2.) Roll across chest (=1/2 chest roll)
3.) Roll under left arm
4.) Roll up back, over left shoulder and left arm, in to cradle of left hand.

ľ Matrix Around the Neck Roll
1) Start in cradle position of right hand
2) Roll over right shoulder, around the neck, to the chest (=1/2 around the neck roll)
3) Roll across chest, under right arm
4) Roll up back, over right shoulder and right arm, in to cradle of right hand.

Ĺ Matrix Behind the Neck Roll (see video clip)
1) Start in cradle position of right hand
2) Roll over right shoulder to behind the neck (=1/2 behind the neck roll)
3) Roll under left arm
4) Roll across chest and right arm to cradle position of right hand (=1/2 chest roll)

Ĺ Matrix Chest Roll
1.) Start in cradle position of right hand
2.) Roll across chest (=1/2 chest roll)
3.) Roll under left arm
4.) Roll up back, over right shoulder and right arm, back to cradle of right hand (=1/2 behind the neck roll)

Ĺ Matrix Around the Neck Roll
1.)Start in cradle position of right hand
2.) Roll over right shoulder, around the neck, to the chest (=1/2 around the neck roll)
3.) Roll across chest, under right arm
4.) Roll up back, over left shoulder and left arm, in to cradle of left hand.


(full)Matrix Chest Roll
1.) Start in cradle position of right hand
2.) Roll across chest (=1/2 chest roll)
3.) Roll under left arm
4.) Roll across back
5.) Roll under right arm
6.) Roll across chest and left arm to cradle position of left hand.

(full)Matrix Behind the Neck Roll
1.) Start in cradle position of right hand
2.) Roll across over right shoulder, to behind the neck (1/2 BtN Roll)
3.) Roll under left arm
4.) Roll across chest
5.) Roll under right arm
6.) Roll up back, over left shoulder and arm to cradle position of left hand.[/quote]

Find any video clips or animated gifs of those moves? They must be spectacular to watch much like jea9 and her wicked skills....
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject:

Ok, What makes a matrix, is the bullet dodge type movements. Colin and I have already been working on this a while, and the other week, I came up with the full matrix roll.

It starts in the cradle, then up the arm to a behind the neck roll, but instead of going behind the neck, it comes down under your arm, and across your chest, under your other arm. you then need to get the ball onto your shoulder, and then roll down to the cradle that you didn't start in.

To get this right, you need to bullet dodge like Neo. There's the matrix element. No need to go across the back of the neck, but you can always try it! I'd love to see this roll... I'm also gonna get Jea9 onto it when I see her next week...
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject:

:drool:

Can't wait to see some video clips of them...

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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject:

i was about to say theres a hat manipulation move that jea9 does, watch her full preformance again, but if you bend down and roll across your back, and then shift and roll, the ball would go along your side and onto your chest...

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YES! i just did the move in your youtube video. the half neck matrix think!
this is a huge new realm of potential! my hat is off to you
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject:

Brilliant LTC!!!
BrbÖ

OH MY GOD! The Full Matrix would be CRAZY!
Itís so much easier with some sort of chest or neck roll incorporated. I find that it helps flatten the surface Iím rolling on, giving me more control of the ball. And it helps get that super hard twisty body swing thing going.

And I canít wait to see what Jea9 will do with the idea! Oh yeah, thatís right. I wonít be there. I suppose Iíll just have to imagine what kind of mind blowing creativity is born from your little meet up.

This plays into the training thread a little, so I thought Iíd share. So I spent about 4 hours today working on just these moves and when I took a break to play around with some other stuff I noticed my continuous around the neck rolls had gotten a lot better. Iím not sure if it was because the 4 hours of awkward body movement, the continuous chest and neck rolls in each direction, or the combination. But it was a weird feeling, not doing a move all for the better part of a day, then trying it and having it feel almost effortless.

LTC- I edited my explanations post and put the (full)Matrix in there. Dose it sound correct?

I'm so soar.
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject:

LTC, you had better take a video of you and jea9 playing with this!....
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject:

Sorry dude, I won't have a camera with me...

Maybe whilst I'm in Rotterdam, Fuero can help us out in that department as well...
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