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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: [ KB ] The 4 Basic Isolations - A workshop.

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Article Title: The 4 Basic Isolations - A workshop.
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Article Description: A beginner and intermediate guide to learning isolations, from Ryan Mellors. First introduced at the isolation workshop, British Contact Juggling Convention 2003.

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject:

hey. quick question about the essay. i read it again quickly about a week ago so excuse me if this is just my poor memory.

but i beleive it says its better to start with a larger ball. ie its easier.

any thoughts on this? is it best to start with the easiest ball or to start with the hardest? ie. will you get better if you start with the 2 incher and then the 4 incher is solid as a rock when u go to isolate it?

or do things just go smoothly when u work from easy to hard?
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:42 pm    Post subject:

Most isolations are hard enough to get clean as it is.
Do anything that you can to make life easier for yourself.

I have a lot of comments and what i think are worthwhile additional material to add to this essay
But I don't have the 2 hours that I need to write it this side of EJC.
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject:

well, for example, Morggg... I couldn't get my iso's down at all.... then I tried palmspinning my 4"er.... since I wasn't focusing on moving the ball, I noticed that my hand was moving under it, and I was almost iso'ing it!
So that is what I think they mean when they say that it's easier to use the bigger (heavier) balls.... that was my 50th of a dollar right there.
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject:

I wasn't just talking about acrylics... a 4" stage ball is ideal for a lot of the learning process.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject:

good point... I keep forgetting there's other types of balls, since I've never bought any... are Stage Balls all that?? Would you recommend me buying one instead of an Acrylic, or maybe Silicone?
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject:

Stage balls are 'all that', Bink. I HIGHLY recommend a nice, squishy 4" Babache in your favorite color. Or a shiny 4" Dube stage ball.
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:36 pm    Post subject:

Squishy?!?!?!
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject:

right. so ur think the lighter stage balls are easier to isolate than heavier 4 inch acrlyics? starting with the easiest first doesnt seem to go with ur, practice how u perform, perform how u practice, idear....

it sounds a little akin to practicing with ur stronger hand before ur weak hand...when i know many people who prefer to learn things for the first time with their weak/less dominant hand, so that training the other hand becomes a downhill effort rather than more tedium...

kind of like saving the cherry on the ice cream for the last bite?

or the little marshmallow bits in the cereal for the end?

using 3 inch acrlyics instead of 4 inch stage balls to start would seem to be ... taking the easy way out?

so the answer i guess is...what ur sayin is...do whatever it takes to let urself spend the time to get it down. whatever that takes...or requires...or whatever motivates...

just wondered if there was some greater principle behind the idea....=]

sorry to go on...
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject:

Nice to see ye haven't changed a bit, Morggg!
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