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Outside Elbow Flyaway

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Last Edit2001-09-10
Author: kverens
Where to hold the ball;

- Move your elbow outwards, hand in front of your chest, untill the arm is horizontal.

- Hold your hand tightly to your chest and notice the bulging flesh between your under and upper arm.

- Move your underarm and hand forwards and notice the point where the skin starts to tighten (and move upwards) by the pull of your underarm.

- The transition point between this tightning and bulging of the skin is the correct arm position. At this point the flesh is minimal tensed and the weight of the ball can easily depress the surface of your skin. On the outside/back of the arm you might have some stability from the upperarmbone.

- Now it\'s \'simply\' a matter of maintaining the balance by slightly lowering or raising of the elbow, preventing the ball from rolling out of the dimple made by it\'s weight.

Somebody posted a message once in the Yahoo CJ-club because he had some problems with this hold, I added some of Ferret\'s helpful reply;

You may have an overly developed muscle at your elbow that creates a bump or hill at the balance point. It is called your \"Extensor Carpi Radialis Longus.\" If you are thin you can see it move. Place your arm in front of you, parallel to the ground and your elbow at a 90 degree angle. Bend your wrist keeping your fingers straight to where they point towards the sky. You should see the rise in that portion of your elbow? That\'s the problem. Even with your palm parallel to the ground you may still have a slight rise in that spot, thus causing an unavoidable barrier in a key balance point. People who work with their hands and rely on a strong grip tend to have this development in their elbow. It\'s not a bad thing, it\'s just something you have to work around. If you place your arm in the same position and bend your wrist, so that your fingers are pointing straight at the ground, you will remove that bump. In a sense, drawing that muscle in by contracting your forearm flexor, this in turn will create a depression and allow the sphere to settle. Unfortunately, placing your hand in that position, just looks plane Stupid! But if you practice you will eventually find a happy medium between nailing the trick and not looking too oddly deformed. Hope this helps!

Author: marco
Oh my god,.. My girlfriend recently went to a juggling convention in Germany and Kevin (or Kelvin)(his 'kristmastree' photo is in the Yahoo photo section in EJC2000) showed this move with two balls simultaniously; one ball on each elbow then a double flyaway to the other elbows. Rumor has it that he has a nicely shaped 'elbow-pit' so that he has a really steady outside elbow hold. Wich enables him to do this. But still, Wow!!!
Author: Chico
Yeah. Alright aside from Ferret and marco and Kelvin... Can ANYONE do this?!?!? :)
Author: sbastian
I'm not solid on them, but I land it about 1 out 3 tries. (Only one month of work on these so far)
Author: Ferret
I worked with this for a while, I was very impressed with the move and wish that Kelvin would post up his own explanation. It is not that difficult to run a ball up the backside of your forearm, squeeze your forearm against your upper arm and form a Huge soft spot that is easy to control, with subtle shifting. Hell, I can dance a jig holding the ball in the launch position of this move. It really isn't that hard. But you have to be proficient with this position on Both arms! If you do not squeeze your upper and lower arms together and go for a good square ninety at the elbow, than you may encounter that Extensor Carpi Radialis Longus problem. that I mentioned at yahoo. However, that same muscle becomes a plus when you squeeze it against your bicep, it becomes ‘The Wall' that keeps the ball from rolling off your elbow during the hold/stall. After that it's just toss in front of your face, raise your receiving elbow up above your final ‘settling position' meet the ball at a slightly lower speed as it was traveling through air. (Kae elaborates on this in His Elbow Catch.) And slow down the movement till you're at a nice level angle with the receiving arm. Now pull your elbow back (alittle shunting movement) and walk it down the back of your other forearm and onto cradle. Don't forget to do a quick jig between the catch and the cradle. *g* Ferret
Author: ferret
I performed a variation of this move at the World Yoyo Competition 2001 in Orlando Fl. Recently. An outside elbow toss, to an inside catch, and down to palm. Nailed the puppy Hard! And I’m pleased to say, It brought the House Down! Thank You Kelvin, and Marco. It works for Me.
Author: jk_cjer
I can do this several times in a row if aget warmed up. It is a very hard move and Marco makes it look easy. Good job.
Author: jk_cjer
I can do this several times in a row if aget warmed up. It is a very hard move and Marco makes it look easy. Good job.
Author: klas
I tried this trick wearing a leather jacket the other day and that made it so much simpler, the leather makes the catchpoint soft and makes it really easy to balance and catch. I suppose it doesn't look as good and the jacket would probably have negative effect on arm rolls and stuff, but it may be a usefull way to learn this move.